The Top AI Agent App Builders in 2026
About This Episode
Hosts Demetri Panici and Jotform CEO Aytekin Tank dive into the expanding landscape of no-code and low-code AI-powered app creation platforms, including Jotform Apps, Glide, Bubble, Lovable, and more.
Drawing from hands-on testing with custom prompts, they evaluate each builder's capabilities—from personal tools and internal dashboards to scalable client-facing apps—and share real-world use cases and performance insights.
Whether you're a startup founder, agency owner, or small business leader, this episode offers valuable perspectives on selecting the right AI app builder to streamline development, reduce costs, and unlock new productivity.
Gain actionable knowledge on building apps via prompt engineering, leveraging AI for iteration and maintenance, and the evolving role of AI in shaping how apps are ideated, launched, and scaled.
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0:00 - Intro To AI App Builders
1:06 - The Rise Of Jotform Apps
3:35 - Business Use Cases For AI Apps
6:02 - AI Tools For Small Business
13:01 - Realistic Expectations For No Code Apps
17:30 - Beginning The App Builder Comparison
23:03 - Best App Generators Showcased
30:07 - Lovable App Demo And Features
36:07 - Rapid Debugging With AI
42:01 - Final Reviews And Top Picks
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I was curious about that and I started researching about it and that's when I told you okay let's do an episode about app builders and AI app builders and that's like you know I did review like 25 app builders and you already have been using uh lovable I believe uh so you will have more like an indepth and I will more have like a like a single prompt based uh like you know what happens if I I actually created one prompt and I gave it these 25 different um app builders and yeah that's that's where we are today. >> Hi, my name is Dmitri Bonichi and I'm a content creator, agency owner and AI enthusiast. You're listening to the AI agents podcast brought to you by Jot Form and featuring our very own CEO and founder Idakin Tank. This is the show where artificial intelligence
meets innovation, productivity and the tools shaping the future of work. Enjoy the show. Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of the AI agents podcast. In this episode, Idkin and I are going to go over the top AI agent app builders in 2025. What's going on, Idkin? >> Hey, Dimmitri. Uh uh it's it's going really well. Um so we have um as you know at Jot Form we have all these like you know mostly we are about forms but sometimes people want to create like uh people want to create like turn their forms into apps. uh sometimes to be able to use it on mobile or sometimes it's just easier to just send someone a single app uh even even if they use it on desktop so that they can access all the forms. I mean even at Jot Form uh we have this
Jotformers app uh where you can find all the like employee related forms or information in it and all the employees actually have them on their u uh phones and this is actually how we came up with the idea for Jatform uh apps and recently there's been like a huge increase in the usage of Jatform apps and when we looked at it we discovered that like we created this AI prompt interface for Jatform apps and we put it on a landing page and it was >> growing like crazy and um you know once we discovered that like just I was really interested in like hey this is great like uh what people are doing like what other uh app builders app uh generators are doing in this space I was curious about that and I started app builders and AI app builders and uh prompt and
I gave it to these 25 different um app builders and yeah that's that's where we are today. Uh it's an exciting episode. >> Well, just to kind of kick things off, a couple questions from you in regards to like the uh I guess way that you know you view this type of stuff. Where do you think um this kind of need came from? And how do you think we as business owners, small business owners, obviously a lot of you watch this show, can benefit from something like the new app builders cuz they kind of came out of I don't want to say nowhere, but kind of in the last 6 months. >> Mhm. I would say there are like two types of apps. Um like one of them is more about you and your customers um you or your clients for example and one of
them is like um more about like internally in our case internally I kept like I kept asking like what was the URL for this form? what was the URL for what was the URL for this document you know what was the URL for the time of uh form or like you know uh things like that and then um at some point like okay you know an app actually helped us like just put them into that this is like internal usage within a corporation I guess uh but another use is like uh more about like you know you know as a small business maybe you have like many customers And you want them to have this like portal like interface where they can log in and like you know access you like contact you or like you know see their information see you know communicate with
you see their previous communications you know you could even use it like a help desk like there are just so many ways you can use um this is like the main uh purpose we see with Jatform but this is more like Jatform specific uh like a lot of people actually want to create apps so that like they can just give it to other people to like promote their business. So I would say that's another use case. Uh but whatever your use case is like this is the age of AI like you shouldn't be spending like you know money you know hiring a like an agency to build you an app for like you know $10,000 or something or even like $100,000. you should be able to just go talk to an AI and be able to build that app. And this also applies to any
web page as well. This is the age of AI like just you can just talk to AI and um prompt AI and um you know get things done. And this is like this was my first time like just really trying out like seeing can I actually build apps like using the product and there were some apps that were they were pretty good actually. they were uh very very good. Um so I'm going to showcase them. But uh how about you like what do you see what type of usage do you see uh for small businesses or any kind of business or organization to you to have a use for apps? >> Yeah. No, good good question. I I think you know with a lot of these small businesses that are coming out um with you know I mean for me right like I I'll get
into it in the episode because of my own needs and necessities as a marketing agency but I really think it's amazing that Lovable can take something like what I would do in regards to like automation and and whatnot and kind of make an app that could maybe solve a lot of these issues and make it take less time, you know. um all these different app builders, like you said, there's internal apps and then there's like stuff you're selling, right? And I think it's it's really interesting for a few reasons that these app generators exist. One, a lot of people have an idea of what they'd like to have. So, like you were saying, you know, maybe they don't have to pay for somebody, but if they did want to pay for somebody, >> they could get a more accurate kind of framework and like uh
what's the term I'm looking for? Uh wireframe put together, so to speak. >> Yeah. Mock with the with these apps. Yeah. Like it's like, hey, I want this. And when they explain it to the AI, it'll kind of do its thing. It'll build something and then they'll be like, nah, not not that. I'd like something else. And with that kind of process, I think from a project planning standpoint, this is great. We actually use it at the company, believe it or not, lovable for like some web page design, just kind of like getting ideas for how you could lay out the page. And it's good for app creation, it's good for ideiation, um, both internally and externally, I think, for for a lot of things, right? So, a client portal system that you maybe want to build or build out custom in a in a
different no code tool, you could get a good start using um these types of apps. And if you're also just thinking of a software you want to sell, it's a good starting point. Now, I don't think these things are absolutely perfect, and I think they have a decent ways to go before they can make something as incredible as like a your standard highlevel ARR SAS company. But for startups, I think they're actually a really good way to start up. >> I think what would make them so much more powerful is um if they if they get better at iteration, right? Uh because like just you know having a single prompt and creating an app is not enough because you're going to build this app and you're going to have to like maintain it it like you're going to have to improve it right you're going
to have bugs uh that will need to be fixed. So I think that's like the first step is kind of being able to create generate these apps but the second step is to be able to really maintain these apps um using tools. So I feel like um AI is getting really good at this initial stage um maintenance uh initial stage like the first uh creation of the app but with the maintenance it's probably you know they probably have more more way to go but I think they are getting better um you know as the code editors are getting better and better uh with you know AI code generation tools and um are getting better I think that's going to get better uh over time. Um, so it's not magic yet. Uh, if you want it to be magic like it has like uh we still
have some way to go. Uh, but you can start like you can use it as a building mark or you can just use it for simple use cases. uh for example in Jot Form AI app generators case like you can just use it to build the AI um use the AI to build the app and then you can use Jatform's existing tools to kind of maintain it uh because we have like we have app builder for a very long time probably like at least 5 years so it's very advanced like has lots of features um but the AI features are are probably going to be like much bigger like but it's going to get get that better uh over time. It's not there yet. Um many of the tools have this problem like they they are just they are great for creating that first thing
but then if you need to maintain it over a long time like when you start having like a real users and when you start having these bugs and you need to improve it it's getting it's it's harder. Um, but you know, uh, it's a good start and I feel like in a few years it's just going to get, uh, so much better. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I completely agree with you. I I think that's that's the key thing I want to go into this with everybody understanding like there is a great opportunity here for you to make really cool improvements to what you're doing at your company, whether it be selling it to people or selling something to people or like I just said, um, doing something internally. And the really cool thing that I like is that it's just the beginning. There is no
better time than the present to get started learning how to use this stuff cuz the outputs will improve exponentially. I think I don't know if you you saw um but Claude 4.5 Sonnet was released >> two to three days ago at this point. I think it was it was Tuesday or Monday. I forget. I think it was Monday. And um it's the first model that we're seeing uh a bit of the exponential curve go wonkers on the coding side and on a lot of the writing side and the agentic stuff. So they're going to add that to lovables architecture. They're going to add that to all these different tools architecture and it's going to make it better and better at building and iterating because that is the biggest issue right now as you're saying iteration is important and you're going to have to know what
you're doing in order to iterate well right. Um, unfortunately, a lot of people, let's say, I don't want to say don't know how to do it already, but they they really don't. You know, a lot of people are just trying to make these apps, and it's cool. They're making apps, right? It's it's it's it's h happening, but they don't know how to fix bugs or iterate on problems or come up with a new creative way to solve an issue that maybe a customer would come up with. And that's where I think the the more the models improve and the more context they have, the better they're going to be at that. So, um, that that would be kind of our our spiel kind of leading into this cuz I do want everyone to temper their expectations that this isn't going to be a magic one
prompt. Everything's working like 1,000% brilliantly, right? Cuz I don't want to break anyone's expectations and they'll come away from this call thinking like, h, I can't make a It's like no one's going to make a a million dollar SAS in like 10 minutes, okay? But you are going to get um a good portion of the way there. Um and I'm being serious when I say that. Yeah, I mean uh it's it's a I would say start with playing um just you know um just trying different things and uh using these tools to um you know do some personal projects generate some apps uh web pages um it's a great way to learn uh when you play with them and um I would say you know um just the great thing is like many of these tools can also do like u like research For example,
um let's say you know you are interested in like the basketball results or something like that. You can just quickly ask it to like you know create an app for you about that and then uh when it joins with the data like if you um you know especially like the last episode we were showing the notion AI how it was able to like kind of do the research pull the data use the data. So if you think about it like um just building an app is not that useful. But if your app can also like pull the data uh from an online source like scraping or from a database then it just becomes so much more powerful and useful for you. Like it could even be like a app for yourself like just uh keeping track of things u things like weight or like you
know as you said as uh you know as I said uh like the you know basketball team result or something like that um you know just keeping track of things um you could have so much fun um yeah >> yeah no for sure um I had a and we'll get into it in a second just last fun thing that I saw um you know even on a base level we're probably not going to cover it, but like you know there are LLMs that now can it kind of do some of this building whether it be GPT or Claude on a basic level like there was a there's two different things that my girlfriend did with it was which I found was funny it was Claude you know how Claude's like got a sort of very small like generator thing it made she made a it's
called sleep uh like you you know how like when you you sleep you have different REM cycles >> Mhm. Mhm. >> There it was a sleep calculator. So there was a website she really liked that just decided to go down for whatever reason that was like, "Hey, this is my sleep calculator. If I go to bed now, will I how how many hours what what should I set my alarm to so that I can wake up and not be groggy cuz I woke up in the middle of a rim cycle." So she just made the equivalent of it in like 5 seconds, you know, using Claude. And another one was like a flashc card thing for her when she was studying for the bar. So I you know you also on a personal level by the way that really easy super funny kind of like
personal stuff absolutely have fun with that too but um without without further ado showing some practical stuff I if if you would please pull up your um first example and we'll kind of dive into some of the cool stuff there. So basically um I I was actually curious about like you know uh I was looking at just from app generator. It it was gaining so much traction and um and it was really exciting to see that and like just I was just curious about like what other products out there. So I went to notion AI and I asked it to like find me like 25 different app builders and I reviewed them all. Basically, I have other other fields here, but I decide to hide them because I'm kind of harsh. Uh like uh and then I picked the best ones like uh these are
no because usually they were too ugly or they were they require payment or credit card to be able to try it. Uh so there were there are many reasons why I didn't pick any of these. Uh but these were the best ones. uh Jatform app generator obviously glide bubble uh anything create anything base 44 famous AI and Zapier interfaces um so I'm just going to go through them one by one and to be able to compare them I actually use the same exact um prompt and actually the prompt is here uh so the prompt I use is here create a small education app for online courses on JForm Academy. Some of the products were uh actually smart and they were able to go and research and find Jatform Academy and some of them weren't. The homepage should be a short headline, a clear call to
action and buttons for browsing courses and contacting. Show courses blah blah blah. Pull the sources from Jatform Academy. Include an about page and contact page. So, this is my prompt and I'm going to go over seven different products that I picked. Uh let's first start uh start with Jot Form um Jotform app generator. So Jot Form Jot Form actually had an app builder for a very long time uh for probably like five years and uh but it didn't have an AI. So this is like a page where we did uh added an AI part. >> Uh but it's basically using that product at the back end. >> Uh so it started really strongly with really strong features. Um and um so basically I just entered the prompt here. Let me copy it from here. Um right um let me find the prompt and copy it
from here. Basically you copy it here like this and then you can enter enter a very long prompt and it will create an app like this. But let me show you more details about this. Um basically you just describe your app and it just creates it. Um it can be a mobile app uh but it doesn't have to be a mobile app. And because uh Jatform app builder has been around for a long time it has like so many features like scheduling maps uh sharing apps like social media all kinds of features of Jatform apps. Uh so you can build it instantly. It's not instant. So this I'm just going to show you the end results on all of these apps. None of them were instant and I we don't expect them to be instant because they are creating like so many pages they generating
>> um things like that. Uh so and it can have all these different designs. uh but just from app agent actually has like this these like different designs but you know there's the structure is kind of uh already already decided but it can pick from those different structures and I think that's a good thing because you don't want your AI app generator to come up with a completely new design because these different types of designs are actually tested over time with hundreds of thousands of uh users. So, you want them to be like, you know, stable. Um and um yeah, and it can work on a desktop, you know, tablet or or or phone. And you can actually install them um basically and you don't even need to like, you know, put them on an app store. They are powered by PWA technology. This means
like people can install them but you don't need to uh be you know wait for like you know app store permissions things like that. Uh you just link to them and people can install them on their phones. Um and yeah these are some examples that were built. Uh so I'm just going to show you the end result. So yeah I mean when you click on this it's just creating this and this might take a while. So I'm just going to show you the end result here. >> Sure. >> Yeah. Um, so here's the here's the app it created. Uh, so basically it was able to pull the Jatform logo, pull the Jatform Academy images and information and all these informations are coming from the uh our web page and it was able to like showcase it and created all these different pages like you can
see home, courses, about contact and FAQ exactly as what I requested from it. courses page actually pulled all the courses from the Jatform Academy page. Introduction to Jatform, introduction to form builder, introduction to data management. Uh we have more but it was only able to pull these and about page like just it basically look at the page and created this page uh as well. even pull pull this, you know, the uh this one uh like testimonial section because like just from uh app app builder actually has a feature to be able to put use testimonials uh contact page uh with the contact you know uh support uh information and even you know created this FAQ for the uh Jatform Academy and all the information and you can actually like log into like you can make these apps so that like people have to register first
and so that you have a user database or you can just make them public in this case this was like a uh b made based on like an you know account based app and and let me show you like what it looks like on mobile um um okay I found it here let me show you the mobile version so this is what it looks like on mobile um Like so the navigation is at the bottom when it's on mobile and this can be installed on your um on your um phones as well. So you can access the list. >> Nice. >> So yeah, this is Jatform um Jatform app generator. Uh the next one I'm going to show share with you is the glide and this is like the best one after Jatform like the best one I liked. um software that moves with you
and it exactly like the other one. Um you can actually put the prompt here and create the app. You can even like upload your data with it which is also really nice. Um and um beautiful landing page and um basic glide is built for businesses that are always evolving. So they also have this mobile um mobile you know mobile friendly and um it can do scheduling web hooks, email apps. So it can actually integrate with other products uh which is really nice and um you can see all these different types of um you know different types I guess you can call them like blogs or integrations like QuickBooks. I see QuickBooks here. I see Stripe. I see. Yeah. Other things. >> can can I speak to this for a second about Glide about something I know about it? >> So, I don't know if anybody
here is in the >> no code kind of community and I I was going to mention this on the preview, but I didn't. >> This is actually one of those interesting scenarios where a company built out an entire system for what's called like a noode app and um like no code uh ecosystems. So, this is like a competitor to uh I don't know if you've heard of no loco or softer or any tools like that, right? But this is essentially that group of companies where they gave you the tools to manually like take components and make a no code app yourself. But they are the first company I think in this realm that's done a really good job of making an AI app generator >> from that foundation. Does that make sense? It's different. Like the the one I'll show you later is more like
coding it up, but this is taking the components. They've already made a bunch of pre-built code that are now putting it together for Does that make sense? >> Yeah, absolutely. >> Okay. Yeah. Sorry, I wanted to give that color before you got into it. >> Yeah, I think they've been around as well. Like they have been around before AI. That's why they have such a good product and you know they they were already good product and with the AI they became even better and they they were they became actually AI first that's what's what's surprising like uh now they are AI first like you use AI to build the product like this I think it could even be AI only so I'm going to show the the app it created um so this is the app it's very beautiful I love the uh you know
dark style you know you you have the home you have search you can see the courses um courses are kind of made up like it didn't pull from the existing courses from the academy but it's still pretty good uh I could have uploaded the data um so that give gives me that info uh you know that option so the about page and and and one of the things I really liked I really really really liked about glide was the data So basically on glide and you have this um chatbot as well everywhere just like notion on glide you have everything is like data is available here. So you can actually see your users you can see like the courses I can edit the courses here. I can upload like just import use this import to upload an existing course database here and suddenly my courses
are going to be here. uh you know all the contact requests from the form contact form all the enrollments in my like it even did that uh enrollments in my courses uh and just like the about page details. So basically right it's actually creating two things. It's creating a layout and the layout is here all these pages and things and it has all these options and it's also giving you the data. So you join the data and the layout and you create an app for app and it's it's really good um and very powerful and the workflow features are like you know you can integrate with other products things like that. So it's an excellent um excellent product and and this is what it looks like on the desktop as well. Desktop version is also beautiful. It also has the you know login features I
I believe and you can see it's it's made really beautiful like the fonts and the design is great. So thumbs up for Glide. Um so I'm gonna go to the next one. Um, next one is called create anything. Create anything.com or anything. Just um text to app. I love this description. Text to app. You just write the text >> and then you get an app, right? You prompt and then you get an app. Turn your words into mobile apps, sites, tools, and products built with code and GP5 and 40 plus integrations in an instant. Uh so join 500,000 builders and here are some examples and they're also good at both full screen and the you know mobile version as well uh desktop and mobile version right uh all kinds of apps so they are featuring all kinds of different apps image generation things like that
um so yeah let's see what it built for me let's take a look at this and um here is the app And uh it's it's a beautiful app. It also has like these tabs at the bottom and I can and it was able to pull all the correct uh like uh courses from the website. Uh it was really good uh at like pulling the data, scraping J from academy information and putting all these things. So this is really good about page. Well done. Really well done. Everything on our page is actually also here and uh written in a great way and um you know the contact page, contact form and everything is here. This is made up academ like this. I don't remember. Uh but yeah, beautiful app, beautiful icons, text, everything is looking great. Uh you have the mobile version and you have the
desktop version and um looking great. Uh so before I move to the next one maybe maybe we can you know uh you can take over and uh show us >> show us uh your work. >> Better. All right. So when I share my screen here it's going to be cool because Lovable's actually had some new improvements recently that are cool. They actually just implemented something called lovable cloud um which is kind of their forte into uh having it all build based off of um the tool >> hosting the uh apps themselves instead of just giving >> correct. Yeah, cuz previously how it was working was you kind of had to host a lot of the data on uh tools like Superbase in order for it to work. Uh but now you can you don't have to use Superbase. you can just like use Lovable, which
is really nice. Um, overall, and Lovable, you know, was really cool cuz it could build out anything for you. I I'll kind of show you how I've been trying to build a couple different things. Um, here. And just to to get started, you know, you would just put out a really long prompt and try to make it best you can. You can even import from Figma so that it looks cooler. Um, but I have basically had the pleasure of making this app. Um, let me refresh it. Making this app called Gold Scraper, which I'm still trying to to work towards, but as you can see, it's a >> Yeah, thank you. It's a fully functional app um for web scraping and uh I I' I've definitely got to spend more time on it. I I would definitely would like Yeah, I'm working on some I'm
working on it, but it will be my startup, I think, when when I get this off the ground. But right now, as you can see, it has the ability for you to look at it from full screen, sidescreen. You can kind of uh change and take a look at it from the desktop and the mobile and everything like that. So, it's uh it's a pretty cool tool in general. I'd say Lovable just has so much uh to it to learn. You have the ability to build now. Luckily, they've added some new stuff recently. You have the ability to build by, you know, like using your voice and it transcribing um which is cool. They have this planning mode which is called >> question. Uh is this like did you only use it uh for the for the UI and the you know website or is
also like all these like web scraping features you have um are they also built with lovables like are they >> they are built with lovable yeah that's kind of why I wanted to go with it because it has the that connection with superbase had some cool stuff where you can make these thing called edge functions and an edge function is essentially a API call um mixed with code that you kind of can do a lot of different things. So you can integrate with a bunch of different tools. You can search, you know, for example, I'll just show you how it works um real quick. If I go to the the dashboard, it's nice. I have a bunch of recent activity. Um but if I go to this web scraper tool, I can go to like jotform.com for example. >> Mhm. What it should do if
it doesn't break is uh it essentially can scrape, you know, the content of the page, that kind of stuff. It can give me the page structure, the page title, metad description, etc. And this is stuff that other apps do, but I found that tools like firecrawl and similar tools are kind of price gouging a little bit because not many tools do this um well. And what I wanted to do is I wanted to make a nice interface and I wanted to make a I guess better experience for people. And um it's a mixture of scraping functions. So there's a bunch of different like tools that I built out like logo finder uh brand assets finder. And all of these things are things that people want to probably find, right, and get out of companies, but they don't necessarily do a great job of uh doing
this anywhere. So that's what that's where the idea kind of came from. Um so it seems like it's the undefined, but you know, one issue I did find with this is keeping the edge functions consistent and not breaking them um over time. So how I how this works quite frankly is I just go into the sidebar and I just continuously try to improve stuff. Like I I know there's some stuff right now where um you see this uh interface is connected to as you see when I click cloud and I press this I go to gold scraper which is the uh sorry I go to um superbase which is kind of the back end so to speak of this app and it has a bunch of these things called edge functions and you might be saying wow this is a lot and you're right it
is a lot but I was able to create all of these functions simply by typing in the chat over here >> prompting right you just prompt >> yeah lit literally just prompting it so you know if I wanted to ask >> microservices and you built the microservices prompting as well >> yeah so I know this this logo finder there's a bug here okay so I can try to look for the logo finder here we go so why did it not find if I go to the logs why did it not find favicon so it seems Seems like it did find it, but it's not showing it. So, it might just be a visual bug. So, it says result not found. I also made a um so I can check, but I also made a history setup, which isn't really found in a lot of scraping
tools. So, maybe it's in the history, but it's not showing up in the front end. That'd be funny. So, it was found. So, it did actually scrape it and it's in my history. So what I can say is like hey on the logoinder landing page for some reason on the /lofinder page for some reason the edge function works and goes into the history tab with the logo but it won't show right on the lash logoinder page. Figure out why. And this chat function lets it plan it out before it actually executes which is cool. And like I said, they just improved it to make it so that I'm pretty sure Claude 4.5 Sonnet is going to be working with this, which unlike the others, um, is actually it's starting to get to the point where it's like, wow, is this AGI? I'm not sure. >>
Um, >> when are you planning to launch this product? >> Uh, because I just checked out gold scraper.com, but it still had like godaddy. No, this is io. Come on. I'm a tech company. I can't do I can't do >> AI. You should buy it before we publish this uh podcast. >> No, you're good. >> What' you say? >> Uh you should you should buy the AI domain. >> I Yeah, I got to find You're right. I I should probably >> This is an AI product. Yeah, I love it. It's I think it's going to be a great product. >> Thank you. Appreciate that. It's It's kind of on the back burner right now to be honest with some other stuff I'm doing, but if I had time I would yeah be be messing around with this. So as you can see um it is
loading. It's basically going through the code and figuring it out, right? It's taking a screenshot of logoinder. It's this has gotten more advanced because I've taken a couple weeks off of coding. It wasn't doing things like screenshotting and stuff. This actually kind of crazy. So they must have really done some improvements. So it says, as you can see, taking screenshot. Um, >> it's actually trying things and while it's trying things, taking screenshots. >> Yeah, that's really cool. So, it's reading the, as you can see, it's reading and it tells you it >> it's going through and reading the backend like edge function logs. It's taking screenshots. It's I can understand the issue. Let me take a look at the rest of the edge function to confirm my understanding. Right? And and what's really cool about this is it's gotten more and more focused as a
company on how do I make less mistakes while building stuff cuz it's great to build something out but it can cause problems. So the issue the edge function returns data wrapped in a format success wrapper which creates the structure. However, the front-end component at the pages look so this is the pages right? So this page um is expecting data directly and not mapped. Why the history works? The history is saved. Okay. The front end needs to extract the actual logo from the wrapper. So current. So it's literally telling me why it's broken and how to fix it. The component should unwrap the response. Can you make it so that the component unwraps the response on the slash logo? >> You should just say just do it. >> Yeah. Now, I like to be more spec. You're right. It probably would work if I said this
is >> exactly what I mean by like building the first version is easy with AI, but like maintenance can be harder. Um, right. It's it's it's still like, you know, you're still, you know, building a product like u you still have all these, >> you know, uh, hard things about starting a startup, building a product, um, fixing bugs. So, it's still not it's still not magic. It's still not Asia yet. >> Yep. So, let's give it a second. I'll kind of let it and you know we only have a couple minutes before the the episode ends but I do just have to say this is the surface of it right and I think it was good to show how you had a tool that really can make stuff quicker and and whatnot. So this is going to fix now unwraps the edge function. Okay so
what all happened >> is you can actually check out the code it changed too which is nice. >> Nice, >> right? And there's there's version history. And what I really like about this is it has a GitHub sync. So you can export the repository at any point in time to kind of as a fail safe. Um and there's version history. So you really are in a pretty good spot most of the time. You can even do coding outside of it and bring it in through the GitHub repository too. So let's um right here just type jotform.com again and hopefully >> it should debug. It should have debugged it. >> Did you click on publish? >> No, I didn't. So that's the other cool thing. So if I press publish now, it'll do it. But as you notice, I was just I'm fixing it in the
back end and not even putting it into Right. That's a big deal, too. It's staging. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, you you just live on uh podcast, you just fix the bug. >> Yeah. Yeah. And I'll be honest. >> Wow. >> I'm pretty good at dissecting what the problem is like from a I kind of get how data works and flows through these edge functions. Now, you probably have the better of an understanding you have. If you're a developer and stuff like that and you really get how this stuff works, I think you'll do great with this. If you're earlier on, it might be harder to figure out what is the the problem. >> But, as I just showed you, it's doing a better job over time. A month and a half ago, two months ago, I don't think it would have figured that out.
>> But it did. And I barely gave it that much context. So, yeah. >> Amazing. >> I literally told it, "Why is it not showing?" And it's like, Yeah, I will. Don't worry. >> Yeah, get the AI domain name as well. >> All right, I will. All right. Well, Adakin, what what other thoughts do you have before we close it out? We're kind of hitting the top of the hour. So, what I still have addition products. Um >> Okay, >> I will just continue where I left off. >> Okay. >> Uh let's see where I was. Um let's let's go back to the initial list. >> Uh basically, I was showing this list. uh you know I I showed some of them anything glide chatform app so I will continue with um bubble now um so this is bubble bubble io um you see the
you see my screen right do you see it >> not yet please >> okay >> is it loading >> something was um something yeah I think I lost the screen sharing let me go and fix that. Okay. Yeah. So, this is bubble.io and um for some reason it's not sharing it fully, I guess. But, um yeah. Um so, launch apps not prototypes. Um and basically, you know, I can put the prompt here and build the app here. And this is what it looks like. An app builder. I think this is also just like glides. This is they have been around for a while. Uh so they already have these like great features. >> So they just built an AI on top of these features and they are also very strong product because of that already have like 5 million user 6 million apps. So pretty
stable uh you know product. Um you can see their mobile version uh and up version uh desktop version. So it looks great. Yeah. Let's let's take a look at what it created. So this is um Yeah. So this is the page it created. Uh you know, one of the things I like about it is like I can just edit it here, right? Just uh very easy to edit um right here. Um and uh let me go to the preview version. So this is the preview version. Um, you know, we have the courses page. I can browse the courses, right? Um, it created courses page. It has this footer and about page, right? Um, and a contact page. Um, really did a did a good job. This can be probably fixed from their tool. And they have like tools like inspector, right? I can probably click
on this and inspect this and improve make improvements on it. So I'm going to move on to the next one. Um the next one is Zapier interfaces. Uh turn Zapier workflows into internal tools. So this is mainly about creating like forms, dashboards, client portals. Uh, and you can build apps like this, uh, using Zap Zapier interfaces. So, I'm going to show you, um, what it looks like. Um, right, the interface created. Um, yeah, it created this page, Monster Digital Skills from Academy contact page. Uh, browse courses and we can see the courses here. So it's not as sleek as the other other app builders. Um let's move on to the next one uh which is a famous that AI and we are going to link to all of these app from the uh description of the uh our our episode so you can uh find
the links there. Um so basic idea to app instantly powered by synthetic intelligence. Um so I I think you were mentioning them. Uh so they are pretty big I guess and you enter here and then >> right you can select if you want a mobile app desktop app or crypto I don't know I don't want to click on crypto uh bulldozer mode is interesting mode allows for a longunning changes with deep deep thinking and meticulous implementation perfect for complex multi-step task and long long prompts genius mode provides enhanced reasoning and problem solving capabilities for tackling and check challenging tasks. It's more expensive. So, use it judiciously. Uh yeah. So, um live from the community there are like other uh apps we can see here. Uh beautiful beautiful stuff. And let's see what it built for us. Uh this is famous.ai. Um so, looks great. Jatform
Academy. It created a logo for me. It created a navigation. There's a mobile version as well. Um, so I can browse apps, contact us. Um, and I can see the courses. Courses were actually pulled from the uh Javform Academy pages correctly. So that's a good thing. Uh, we can click on the um browse courses. Oh, it's here. uh advanced form logic introduction to data management jet from apps builder payment forms and e-commerce. So this is great. Uh it was able to pull them all and it made an it failed about on the um about page. How do I go back? Okay, here. And contact page seems to be missing now. Um I'm going to move on to the next one which is base 44. Um, and let's make your dream a reality right now. Base 44 lets you build fully functional apps in minutes with
just words. No coding necessary. So you enter your prompt here, submit here and um 400k users and created the speed of thought and let's see backands build it automatically ready to use instantly. So it looks like you can create like dashboards um a use case to use it as a dashboard builder. So let's take a look at what it built. Um this is the uh inside. So you enter prompts here on the left side. And then this is the um the app it built for me. Home courses about. Let's take a look at the homepage. Beautiful design usage of icons things like that. Master new skills at your own pace. Um and like just you know these are great like all these things and um you can see the list of courses you can search courses right let's see if the search works jatform um
I don't know if it worked probably not some missing images as well right view details right the details page for the uh product the courses and you can enroll in the courses using a form. So this is also well done. Um yeah they they also did a good job and this was all all the seven um different um AI app generators that the best seven AI app generators that I could find and uh pretty good. Yeah. >> Yeah. No, they all looked really great. I think overall um you know we have a wide market of ones to choose from. Um obviously I've kind of stuck with lovable for now and I think it's cool but I definitely recommend you trying out everything at Idkin said especially if you're in the world of like making something out of the box. I think that glide one is
a really clear winner in my eyes cuz you know if you want to make your own custom like client portal or something but don't want to make like a how do I say that? If you want to make an internal app probably I think Glide was a really good option because it's like functional. It's working. if you're trying to with a slower period of time like me build out like a functional consumer app, Lovable was pretty cool and a lot of the options you showed were cool. So, um yeah, I think that's that's all for me. I think it was a good episode. >> Um here's my conclusion. If you're not afraid to look at the code like just like the what you have so uh show us uh like if you're not afraid to look at the code if you're not afraid to you
know um you know you're not afraid to be more technical I think you should go with a product like lovables uh or even like you know uh code code tools like cursor things like that uh or copilot right um you can still prompt them they will write code and um if you if you have written code in the past or if you're not just like uh Dimmitri if you're not afraid to look at the code I think those are great you will get much more like you will be able to uh go much deeper be able to build so much more like just uh just like uh you know what a programmer could do uh but if you are just this um if if you're not very technical I would say go with one of these tools and I would Okay, pick a tool that
has been around for a while like you know the glide or jatform app generator or bubble. Um because these tools uh if you if you if if you kind of get stuck with AI you can always go to their existing nonAI app builders and and they've been around for a while so their app builders are not very confusing pretty good. Jatformms app builder is pretty good. So you can go there and just use without AI. If you get stuck with AI, if you AI can take you to some place, you can still go and use the uh manual like uh app builder and do things that you need to do. Uh so they have that option until AI gets so much better that I know you you won't even need that. But I don't think we are there. Uh so if you're non-technical, I think
those are your best options. Uh but there are also products and they are all growing and in a year from now this podcast episode is going to be so much useless because all the things are going to be so much more powerful and uh the even just from AI generator is just every mod it's uh improving so much like it's it's getting unrecognizable every month. So, I would say uh you know just play with it, build your app and um you know it's it's a great time to be alive. >> Yes, it is. It absolutely is. It's always a great time to be alive, especially in this world of AI. And um it's a great time for you to subscribe and like and review the AI Agents podcast if you haven't already. So, for those of you that are new to the show, thank you
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